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Is Apple the only make which produces EFI and not dinosaur BIOS laptops?

asked Mar 30 '11 at 16:11

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edited Mar 30 '11 at 16:43

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Never rely on Intel for innovation....

answered Apr 05 '11 at 15:03

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Never rely on Intel for innovation?

Intel originally developed EFI...

(Apr 12 '11 at 17:30) piledriver

As far as I understand, only Windows Vista SP1 onwards supports EFI, and only x64 flavours - so that's going to limit takeup somewhat. Folks like Asus and MSI are definitely creating motherboards that support it, but I'm not sure if it's made it into any standard laptops yet. Would be interested to hear what other folks say.

answered Mar 31 '11 at 11:38

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Lenovo X120e already ships with UEFI although it is possible to set it to legacy BIOS if required as well.

answered Apr 01 '11 at 09:01

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So, only Lenovo X120e? - a laptop half of the world will not see anyway? quote from lenovo forums

"I have just contacted the UK Lenovo sales number: 0800 1691451, and was told by the assistant categorically that the Thinkpad X120e would NOT be released in the UK, or elsewhere in Europe."

(Apr 03 '11 at 20:46) arilect

Many Acers and VAIOs have EFI too - they just hide it, per Microsoft's recommendation. In fact, any machine with "InsydeH2O", "Phoenix SecureCore" or "Tiano" on their detailed POST screens (not to be confused with the graphical "Quiet Boot" screen that notebooks display by default) has EFI.

However, Microsoft recommends (in its Plug and Play PC specification) that any machine with EFI hide this fact from the user, and only do true EFI boot if it finds a file called "/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI" on the hard drive's EFI System Partition. If this file is found, it should be booted automatically with no feedback to the user. If it is not found, then the firmware should, per M$, behave as if it were a plain old 16-bit BIOS.

Still, it is possible to unlock full EFI support in many notebooks - you can find information about this all around the 'Net.

answered Sep 30 '11 at 16:26

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Intel was the pioneer of EFI/UEFI. All HP systems for the last several years are UEFI, but not forcibly; you can turn EFI off and it boots with the BIOS. I would imagine most manufacturers are in the same boat; check your start up options.

answered Oct 20 '11 at 22:42

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EFI is not superior it just allows the unwashed to believe they know what they are doing

answered Oct 24 '11 at 16:37

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UEFI exists on many motherboards, but your Dells and HPs aren't keen to buy them for their pre-built systems because there's no need to from their point of view.

And yes, Apple EFI is actually worse than BIOS, it's designed to take away options rather than add them e.g no overclocking, no boot control etc.

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answered Nov 01 '11 at 13:52

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